Comments on: The Other History of Khao Soi http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/ Great eating from the white trash of Asia Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:53:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Brian http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/comment-page-1/#comment-24613 Brian Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:02:18 +0000 http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/#comment-24613 Although this is interesting, I think I have to point out the 2 storey rhino in the room. Your bit here is unapologetically speciest. You seem entirely comfortable, at least you did at the point of this publication, to ignore the entirely uncessary comodification, killing, and suffering of a SENTIENT being. Is it relevant that the traditional dish has meat and uses "egg" noodles? No! Of course it's not. Unless cuisine is some Platonic pie in the sky pursuit, which is silly for being impossible, then individual talent and modification are not only inevitable from bowl to bowl (let alone chef to chef), but allowed without completely bastardizing the dish altogether. I have made better vegan khao soi with my own hands than any I tasted in Chiang Mai. Furthermore in a dish like this the meat is obviously an accessory (else you couldn't imagine changing the type of meat). Anyone who would even argue that it makes the dish taste better is in some respects an apathetic and ignorant human being. Do animals feel anything? If a chicken can feel even a moment of negative stimulus and if sentient life is worth anything at all (keeping in mind that in the absence of religious favouritism, sentience is precisely what any animal seems likely to share as a loss at death) then dare we not say that matters more than your unecessary indulgence? No one needs 'meat', 'dairy', or (Chicken) 'eggs'. If you disagree you simply need to do some research (that doesn't come from the Cattleman's Association). I care about the animals, but I also care about the rain forests in South America and the tremendous wastes in energy and land that are the result of feeding over 50 billion domesticated land animals a year. I care about the dead zones in the Gulf of Mexico. I care about the pathogens bred in the farms you patron and the people that have suffered and/or died from your sponsored pathogens. I care about the water that it wastes to eat animals, their baby formula, and eggs. I just care at all. If you can't look in the eyes of a slowly dying animal or even one that will begin to die in moments and think that it looks delicious, then you shouldn't eat it. For, part of what makes you separate, beautiful, and not driven solely by your cravings, is that you can be moral. I hope you realize that this is a brutally speciesist and apathetic phrase: "regardless of the animal on offer". Just open your eyes. Veganism is easy. No one needs your excuses. Although this is interesting, I think I have to point out the 2 storey rhino in the room. Your bit here is unapologetically speciest. You seem entirely comfortable, at least you did at the point of this publication, to ignore the entirely uncessary comodification, killing, and suffering of a SENTIENT being. Is it relevant that the traditional dish has meat and uses “egg” noodles? No! Of course it’s not. Unless cuisine is some Platonic pie in the sky pursuit, which is silly for being impossible, then individual talent and modification are not only inevitable from bowl to bowl (let alone chef to chef), but allowed without completely bastardizing the dish altogether. I have made better vegan khao soi with my own hands than any I tasted in Chiang Mai. Furthermore in a dish like this the meat is obviously an accessory (else you couldn’t imagine changing the type of meat). Anyone who would even argue that it makes the dish taste better is in some respects an apathetic and ignorant human being. Do animals feel anything? If a chicken can feel even a moment of negative stimulus and if sentient life is worth anything at all (keeping in mind that in the absence of religious favouritism, sentience is precisely what any animal seems likely to share as a loss at death) then dare we not say that matters more than your unecessary indulgence? No one needs ‘meat’, ‘dairy’, or (Chicken) ‘eggs’. If you disagree you simply need to do some research (that doesn’t come from the Cattleman’s Association).

I care about the animals, but I also care about the rain forests in South America and the tremendous wastes in energy and land that are the result of feeding over 50 billion domesticated land animals a year. I care about the dead zones in the Gulf of Mexico. I care about the pathogens bred in the farms you patron and the people that have suffered and/or died from your sponsored pathogens. I care about the water that it wastes to eat animals, their baby formula, and eggs. I just care at all. If you can’t look in the eyes of a slowly dying animal or even one that will begin to die in moments and think that it looks delicious, then you shouldn’t eat it. For, part of what makes you separate, beautiful, and not driven solely by your cravings, is that you can be moral.

I hope you realize that this is a brutally speciesist and apathetic phrase: “regardless of the animal on offer”.

Just open your eyes. Veganism is easy. No one needs your excuses.

]]> By: Khao Soi « viewfinder | xin http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/comment-page-1/#comment-23879 Khao Soi « viewfinder | xin Sat, 26 Dec 2009 03:45:33 +0000 http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/#comment-23879 [...] Western bloggers have written about Khao Soi as well, read The Other History of Khao Soi for an interesting peek into the purported historical [...] [...] Western bloggers have written about Khao Soi as well, read The Other History of Khao Soi for an interesting peek into the purported historical [...]

]]> By: Mereka Bilang Saya Bodat » Blog Archive » Khao Soi http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/comment-page-1/#comment-18481 Mereka Bilang Saya Bodat » Blog Archive » Khao Soi Fri, 14 Aug 2009 08:32:52 +0000 http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/#comment-18481 [...] Travel+Leisure SEA edisi Agustus 2009, gue langsung nggak sabar pengen icip makanan yang bernama Khao Soi. Mesti ke Chiang Mai nih [...] [...] Travel+Leisure SEA edisi Agustus 2009, gue langsung nggak sabar pengen icip makanan yang bernama Khao Soi. Mesti ke Chiang Mai nih [...]

]]> By: Charles Frith http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/comment-page-1/#comment-201 Charles Frith Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:40:37 +0000 http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/#comment-201 Another Thai food porn blog. Yay! Another Thai food porn blog. Yay!

]]> By: Josh http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/comment-page-1/#comment-191 Josh Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:58:46 +0000 http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/#comment-191 common khao soi is more a bangkok re-invention of the northern dish. traditionally, it contains no coconut milk at all, as the coconut palms of the north are not plentiful, do not produce good milk, and are generally reserved for making sweets for special occasions. beef is the most traditional, chicken is orthodox enough, pork is an aberration. but however the dish is made, i've personally never had a bowl that was less than delicious. common khao soi is more a bangkok re-invention of the northern dish. traditionally, it contains no coconut milk at all, as the coconut palms of the north are not plentiful, do not produce good milk, and are generally reserved for making sweets for special occasions. beef is the most traditional, chicken is orthodox enough, pork is an aberration. but however the dish is made, i’ve personally never had a bowl that was less than delicious.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/comment-page-1/#comment-178 Kevin Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:52:57 +0000 http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/#comment-178 Once again, looks fantastic. I wish I had some well-educated addition to make, but alas, sadly, I do not. Once again, looks fantastic.
I wish I had some well-educated addition to make, but alas, sadly, I do not.

]]> By: Phil http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/comment-page-1/#comment-175 Phil Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:27:37 +0000 http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/#comment-175 There is certainly much more work to be done - I think <a href="http://realthai.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"> Austin</a> mentioned somewhere that the owners of Khao Soi Lam Duan claim that they invented khao soi in its current form. I'm extremely doubtful of that, but it may have a nugget of truth in it if khao soi is a recent Thai innovation. There is certainly much more work to be done – I think Austin mentioned somewhere that the owners of Khao Soi Lam Duan claim that they invented khao soi in its current form. I’m extremely doubtful of that, but it may have a nugget of truth in it if khao soi is a recent Thai innovation.

]]> By: Robyn http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/comment-page-1/#comment-173 Robyn Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:22:52 +0000 http://www.lastappetite.com/khao-soi/#comment-173 Interesting, that Malay link. To me, curry mee (aka curry laksa) here in Malaysia has more of an 'Indian' flavor than kao soi (most versions make abundant use of fresh curry leaves) ... and then there is the appearance (in non-halal versions) of such Chinese-influenced accoutrements as deep-fried tofu puffs and pork skin... Someone needs to devote themselves to researching the definitive history of kao soi. Interesting, that Malay link. To me, curry mee (aka curry laksa) here in Malaysia has more of an ‘Indian’ flavor than kao soi (most versions make abundant use of fresh curry leaves) … and then there is the appearance (in non-halal versions) of such Chinese-influenced accoutrements as deep-fried tofu puffs and pork skin…
Someone needs to devote themselves to researching the definitive history of kao soi.

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